The .45-70 should be great for that. Barrel twist rate: 1:20″ Although the Marlin 1895 shot a buffalo-killing cartridge, it was never one of the buffalo guns. This rifle is not your grandfather’s Marlin. Chad and I looked high and low all afternoon, seeing zero pigs, which is pretty unusual in this area. Privacy Policy   •   Contact Us   •   Warnings   •   FAQs   •  © 2021 National Rifle Association of America. And while it’s often said that you can’t do much about the trigger of most lever-action rifles, try the trigger pull on one of these custom shop Marlins and you will instantly feel that this isn’t exactly true. Stepping up to a more modern loading, the commercial Hornady 325gr FTX LeverEvolution round shot 2.7-inch average groups. Both the 19th century Marlin and the current CB come with a 26″ blued octagonal barrel. Pistol-caliber rifles and carbines have been around as long as metallic cartridges have existed. Hours of Operation Monday–Saturday 9:00AM–5:00PM Sunday The rifle’s big-loop lever and smooth action made rapid shooting a cinch even off sticks, with which the author has vast experience (3). Question… Ever tried Unique in .45-70? I’d like to have that rifle, but can not afford it. It has the curved metal butt plate mentioned in the article. I really wanted to like the Marlin but I’ve been stung too many times. plus one. The smaller the aperture, the more precise the sight alignment; the larger the aperture, the faster the target acquisition. This review and those like it are why I visit TTAG daily – Thanks! No sir, I have not tried unique in the 4570. yes it is drilled and tapped see ***** UPC: 026495010362 Description: MAR 1895 CBA 45-70 LVR 18.5 B Brand: Marlin Model: 1895 CBA Type: Rifle: Lever Action Caliber: 45-70 Finish: Blue Action: Lever Action Stock: Walnut, Satin Finish, Straight Grip Sight: FT: Marble's Carbine RR: Adj. I probably wouldn’t choose it to hunt brown bears. Because of the wide variation of loads and uses, the stair-stepped ramp on the rear sight is particularly vital for rifles firing the .45-70 cartridge. One cursory look at the new for 2018 Marlin 1895 TSBL Trapper and you immediately know it is as handy a rifle as has ever been made. The shorter version fits my style and needs better than the rifle versions. The 350 cast bullet loads were most accurate at 33.0 grains and again at 36.0 grs. Right out of the box, the Marlin has a darn good trigger. For top performance in those tough long range events, the Marlin Model 1895CBA is a must-have for Cowboy Action Shooters. )” half octoganal barrel, engraved nickel receiver. The replacement was shipped back to Marlin/Remington also at the end of the following week due to similar (not as bad) issues but also problems with the hammer fit and alignment. Required fields are marked *. Not so well known is that the Marlin Custom Shop was moved to Sturgis. As of the date of this review, the suggested retail price on the Marlin 1895CB is $839 US. Safety: Hammer block safety Marlin 1895CB (image courtesy JWT for thetruthaboutgusn.com). Still have the receipt in the box, cost me $325 tax at the time. I must’ve gotten good 45-70 Guide Guns back when they first offered them. And CCI has a 22 Plinkster special edition ‘Stangers’ with a “22” head stamp instead of the usual “C”…. Accuracy * * * * * Both would prove so useful they’re still being made to this day, a century and a quarter … Neither grip is more traditional than the other, at least not on the 1895s. The lever-action rifle is a distinctly American tool. The Marlin Custom Shop can install XS Sights’ one-piece steel front post (l.) and ghost-ring aperture rear (ctr. At 144 years old, the .45-70 Gov’t cartridge shows no signs of retiring. In the 1890s lightning struck twice with two brilliant designs — the Winchester 1892 and the Marlin 1894. I have a JM GS that is my brush gun, a GBL that I'm still playing with and now this CBA. Topwater. After Marlin fell under the Remington umbrella, a misaligned front sight was one of the most common complaints against the Marlin guns. There are a few folks now that can color case harden these guns. Can't wait to get it. The old idea is still valid, and the new things Marlin has done, to my mind, just make the original even better. I’ve learned the saying “buy once, cry once”, the hard way. Out of the box, this is a gun I’d stake my life on. I’ve never had any issues with either one over the years but I consider them toys for now. Granddaughters would be angry if I didn’t run to them. You really have to try to feel for it. MODEL 1895 RIFLES: TRIED AND TRUE. 3 Comments on Marlin Classic Model 1895 Mini Review; When it comes to big bore rifles for North American game, there’s 1 rifle that stands out as the biggest practical bore to use for short range game busting, the Marlin 1895. Either the hole or the dowel is not round- quite a gap can be seen on one side. Sent back a second time. Streetlights never went off today it stayed so dark. FTX; Winchester’s 300-gr. Notable examples include the Henry (1860), Winchester 1866 and 1873 and Marlin 1889. I really do. When you’re ready to hit the trail reach for this open range legend. Reliability * * * * * The rifle handles extremely well; I first saw a couple of them at the SHOT Show last year and was intrigued; it seemed a fitting tribute to the guide gun concept—especially if it shot as well as it looked. It will be the 3rd guide length 45-70 I have. As of the date of this review, the suggested retail price on the Marlin 1895CB is $839 US. In a tubular-magazine lever-action firing a 144-year-old cartridge I think it’s impressive. The evening was cooling fast, good, but the wind was still strong, not so good. Finish: Blued metal surfaces Just like cool things. The basic Marlin rifle is completely disassembled and the internal parts are polished and smoothed. They said they would set up a refund if needed. The modern 325 grain Hornady LeverEvolution requires the next-to-lowest setting. A Marlin action can be smoothed out, but it takes someone who really knows what they are doing to make a big difference. With a long octagonal barrel and shockingly good wood, my Marlin 1895 is a lever-action from another era. NOT GRANDAD’S MARLINMarlin currently offers eight versions of its Model 1895 Big Bore in .45-70 Gov’t: one with a 22" round barrel and half-magazine; a full-magazine rifle with a 26" octagon barrel like my 1895; and six versions with 18.5" barrels. It traces its roots to 1948 when the Model 36 was updated with a round bolt and became the Model 336. The lever-action rifle is a distinctly American tool. If my grandfather had owned a Model 1895 in .45-70 Gov’t, it would likely have been the older “square bolt” model manufactured from 1895 to 1917. Then again, I was looking at some hunts in Namibia where the .470 double will be a better choice. If you should choose, a filler block for the safety is inexpensive and simple to install. …Now i want one, sheesh. The originals were metal and more curved like the rifle buttstocks of their time. There are some loads in an early Lyman Cast Bullet manual, and based on my notes, 12 grains was still subsonic at 1085fps out of a Sharps, and an absolute joy to shoot for plinking in terms of recoil and noise. Accuracy was indistinguishable, and out to 100 yds. Thought it might be an article he would read. For me the “new” Marlin has been a big hot turd. I haven’t checked out the new pond. All I did was take it apart and polish anything that touched anything else. But laying prone behind it? It has an 18 octagon barrel and blued finish. There is no rubber butt pad, but instead a hard plastic checkered plate with the Marlin logo. Rick, it’s called bent. 20 jacketed and 50 cast. The Marlin stock is essentially designed for use with open sights, and it was perfect with the supplied ghost-ring aperture. This 1895CB has a lifter that lifts just fine and a finger lever that pivots smoothly and without catch. The Trapper is hands down a better operating gun than the earlier JM model!!! Same here. Folks, if you need more than two, something has gone awry. Nor was it really a cowboy gun. They work. As per usual when I wander off into the weeds of gun history, feel free to skip this section. They refused to order one because they didn’t do enough volume with Marlin to order. I’ve never had any problems except for the front sight hood, I keep ordering replacements and the stupid “clip on” hoods keep blowing off in the tall grass and getting lost. Easy to install ghost ring sights. I was considering taking it to Africa next May. Very accurate and cycles perfectly. That was before the Kick-Eez recoil pads came out but what I had installed was similar. I desperately wanted a 5+1 model 1895BL and pestered my local gunshops for six months. This refinishing is not particularly cheap, but worth every penny. XS peeps are available and work well, have a set on my 1895GBL. There, custom rifles are the order of the day, and the Custom Shop is turning out some of the finest lever-actions I’ve ever seen. The Cerakote finishing on both stock and metal are perfect, but this facelift is more than skin deep. JHP; and Garrett’s 400-gr. I guess I should note that I was the only person shooting in my division. The latter offer good bases for the guide gun concept. Can not afford it, Can not afford it, Can not afford it,,,,well I tried. The Henry I’ve had my eye on onky has a 4 round magazine. This Model 1895 Cowboy Action Shooter is chambered for 45/70 and features a 18.5" octagon barrel with deep cut ballard type rifling, 6-shot tubular magazine, adjustable marble semi-buckhorn rear and marble carbine front sight. But the other three old ponds only hold 6 footers. FIT AND FINISHRemington’s product manager for Dakota Arms and the Marlin Custom Shop is an old friend, Carlos Martinez—as is Ward Dobler, a key player at Dakota for many years. No, the popularity of the 1895 didn’t really have anything to do with the western expansion or the cowboy age at all. I’ve felt this with every factory Marlin of the modern age, no matter who owned the company. Consider retreat. The new production Marlin 1895CB is just as good as any Marlins produced in decades. (The new pond isn’t new. My old Winchester M94 will also have you feeling like Beatrix Kiddo after training on the unpadded shuri makiwara for Pai Mei. Per American Rifleman protocol, I fired five five-shot groups. If you see a big oblong cut-out on the right side of the receiver, it’s a post ’48 model. I had to take the magazine off to get it running again. I have reviewed a couple of the Henry 45-70s for this website. So, although initial accuracy with the ghost ring was surprisingly good, I next went to an Aimpoint Micro red-dot unit that was easily clamped onto the rail mount and zeroed. It’s known and lamented that there have been delays getting Marlin back up to full production. Just new to us since it was absorbed into the farm.) All worked perfectly, but my experience with Marlin lever guns was far from complete. I think a Marbles aperture sight mounted on the top tang would be perfect for one of these except not sure if a) it would fit and b) the recoil would be an issue. A couple of side notes- pal of mine bought an off-the-rack Turnbull 1895 standard grade and it, IMO was not worth the money. What was the ft./lb. I noted that there was some velocity loss from the short barrel. This time they decided to replace the gun, which was decided by end of July. For me the “new” Marlin has been a big hot turd.”. Thanks for the review. From the factory they come in several stock options: straight or pistol grip; wood, laminate or synthetic. It arrived too late in the game for that as well, and the cartridge the great rifle fired was simply out of date by the time the model 336 came out. The blued finish is even and well done for a working gun. Accuracy was indistinguishable, and out to 100 yds. I decided to combine these three because they are interconnected with each other. The Marlin 1895 Dark Series is a new take on an old idea. I’ve only shot two loads through it, a 430 “Bear” load that hurts like hell, and a 405 cowboy load that’s a pu&&ycat. The barrel and magazine are pinned together by a fore-end cap. I suppose I should have anticipated as much after remembering back to the, Women On Target® Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Ambassadors, NRA Outstanding Achievement Youth Award Presented by Brownells, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, Ammo Shortage Creating Lines at Gun Shops. I have a JM GS that is my brush gun, a GBL that I'm still playing with and now this CBA. These were some of the previous areas of concern, but the many folks who coaxed me back to Marlin seem to be right. Too much heat and accuracy can begin to degrade. Super Hard Cast, which is suitable only in modern actions. Now I can shoot those same heavy loads off the bench when before — it was painful. Full report after I have a chance to get it to the range. That begat the modern Model 1895 in .45-70, which came on the market in 1972. Unlike the early Marlins, the current generation of 1895s (and 1894s) include a cross bolt safety. During firing the barrel heats (and expands), but the tubular magazine does not. Great review! I sold the guide gun after figuring the cost of all the mods to make the gun work right for me. This brand new Marlin 1895 CBA is a lever-action rifle which fires the .4570 round. This rifle clearly wanted to shoot, so to give it the best chance to strut its stuff from the bench I mounted a much larger scope than I would normally put on a .45-70. Before it could dry, the ash settled all over everything. Too bad Remingtons declared bankruptcy, I don’t know how to reload and I hope to get more easy-shooting ammo! In this firearm, like the 1895CB, the old workhorse can launch a 320 gr bullet at 1,900 fps, easily surpassing the 3,000 ft/lbs of energy mark, and quite a bit more. Quick pointing, fast-handling and classic styling chambered for big bore rounds of .45-70 Government. 2 fires within 10 miles of home. I would have appreciated a rubber butt pad even more, both for comfort in long strings of shooting as well as the additional length of pull. My second Marlin was a stainless steel Guide Gun with ported barrel and I added XS Express sights. Of course, if you do you’re totally missing out. Delay after delay despite them saying once they got the FFL info they’d ship (hint, they lied). There’s very, very little creep or mush. At this pressure level, generating 1,600 ft/lbs of muzzle energy, the cartridge is capable of taking any game animal in the western hemisphere. Introduced in 2009, it is a slightly revamped version of the Model 1895GS in .45-70, which was introduced in 2001 and had all of its major parts manufactured out of stainless steel. In my case it doesn’t matter—my days of precise shooting with aperture sights are over! With an 18.5" barrel the rifle has a 37" overall length, making it quite handy. 1 in .375. The Henrys are purty, but all the ones I’ve shouldered just didn’t fit quite right. You’ll probably have to find private water for him. Modern loads include (above, l. to r.): Hornady’s 325-gr. I found that a dot of blue Loc-Titeto the screw was necessary to keep it in place, otherwi… The old idea is still valid, and the new things Marlin has done, to my mind, just make the original even better. If this one goes back or I get the refund I’ll get a Ruger No 1 or what was my initial plan, a Henry. I put in one of Jim West’s extractors and pondered sending mine to him to convert to a Co Pilot. You got lucky finding an 18" barreled 1895 CB !!! “Sharp edges on the lever is one of the things I noticed on the Marlin guns”. The worst was a very mediocre 1.781"—maybe shooter error. I have no plans to use it to save my life, I’ve got others to use for that. Great rifles….nothing better for getting into action than slim ratchet gun. I was pretty sure of a hit and so was Chad, but dark was coming fast. Full report after I have a chance to get it to the range. As I said, my 1895 Marlin with 26" barrel is shockingly accurate: At 50 yds. It will be the 3rd guide length 45-70 I have. Your email address will not be published. Check out Skinner sights. Problems loading and cycling are the issues I have personally witnessed on several of the new generation Marlin rifles. Submit Review. If you need help later I’m sure the TTAG community will respond. I use a flip down sight in place of the buckhorn as a “BUIS” and dovetail filler. If anything, it was the shorter barreled “guide gun” versions, either custom or from the factory, that really built the 1895’s legacy. Sadly, mistakes made after Marlin’s transition to Freedom Group Remington ownership tarnished the reputation of the once sterling brand. On the other hand, I’m not a bear guide. Especially when you consider that there are no “match loads” for the .45-70. Heck yeah I reached for the butt pad. I wouldn’t worry too much about the speed, but you do want to match the bullet to the game you’re hunting. Invented and perfected here, it has not received the love overseas that it has had here for generations. Impact Guns is the gun shop for all your shooting needs. According to Marlin Firearms, the 1895 Guide Gun in stainless steel (also available in blued steel) is a hybrid of the Model 336 series lever action with slight updates made to accommodate the 45-70 cartridge. Accurate, dependable, and supremely powerful, it also looks pretty good to boot. FRONTIER LEGEND. Any thoughts? With their tapered octagon barrels, these rifles offer true cowboy-rifle heft and aesthetics for everyone from the die-hard cowboy action shooter to the hunter who appreciates 19th century-style. Monoflex load, a homogenous alloy bullet. 1 star 2 stars 3 stars 4 stars 5 stars. The rifle kicked itself clear of the sandbags with every shot, but .45-70 recoil is more of a push than a hard rap, so it isn’t difficult to deal with. Stock finish looks like someone laid a rag on it while drying and there is a lot of varnish clogging the checkering. Directly underneath that barrel is a full-length magazine. With the right bullet, the 1895CB is capable of more precision than most would expect. In June I bought my first Marlin, .45-70 1895GBL, new. Not cheap but I can’t imagine anyone being disappointed. With any round, commercial or homemade, from 250 grain Hornady Monoflex to 405 grain pure lead and hard cast, from myriad smokeless powders to old-school black, this faithful lever gun ran and ran and ran. Many lever action fans, myself included, turned their back on the new “Remlins”. Prices are super cheap right now. Cycles well, Skinner peeps are accurate, I have been very pleased with it, thankfully. I only buy the older stamped JM Marlins. The result is an easy-handling gun that moves quickly and balances very well, for its length. After my buddy and gunwriting colleague Chub Eastman passed, I acquired his Marlin 1895 from his widow, Gloria. Never liked using the hotter loads on bench rest either. For the match and the practice leading up to it, I shot 80 rounds of this load, cleaning the bore fully and blasting the action with Birchwood Casey Gun Scrubber spray after rounds 40 and 80. I’m curious what you mean by this: ” but also problems with the hammer fit and alignment.” I’m not sure I can think of what problem you could have been experiencing. CCI has a ‘Troy Landry Special Edition’ .22lr mini-mag with ‘Choot Em!’ on the box : https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/cci-mini-mag-high-velocity-troy-landry-special-edition-22lr-plated-lhp-36-grain-300-rounds?a=1786999. Get the American Rifleman Insider newsletter for at-a-glance access to industry news, gear, gun reviews, videos and more—delivered directly to your Inbox. . He didn’t say anything about gators. and the modern 1886 brownings and winchesters … both of which are actually stronger than the marlin. But I think I’ll stick to my Ruger No. Don’t know where you live in Oregon, but hope the fires are not near to you and yours. It is a smooth, accurate, handsome, and reliable rifle, deserving of the legendary Marlin brand. For those unfamiliar with Marlin’s 1894 line, they’re lever-action carbines chambered for .44 or .357 Magnum cartridges. Check out this and other Marlin products online at www.marlinfirearms.com. Action: Lever action, side ejection, solid-top receiver Here on California’s Central Coast we’re in the “condor zone,” meaning we have to use lead-free bullets, so I also checked it with Hornady’s 250-gr. Considering the feeling of betrayal I experienced with some previous Marlins, I was hard-pressed to pick up another one in earnest. Although the robustness of the metal is appreciated, the flatter plastic butt plate is far more forgiving in recoil. The sights are also similar to the old models, although several options on the originals were available from the factory. That made feeding cartridges smooth and easy (1). Subscribe for FREE now to ensure you never missa single vital update... ©COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. We offer a wide selection of firearms, including: handguns, shotguns, rifles, ammunition, rifle scopes and optics, as well as collectible machine guns and other NFA/Class 3 guns. Home Forums > Marlin Firearms > Lever Action > Latest Replies Marlin 30AS/AW 30-30 jstanfield103 replied Nov 21, 2020. Let’s put the cards on the table: I love lever-actions, but not equally. Both of the guns, the original from June and the replacement were both brand new, with the replacement being manufactured in 2020. Then you handle it, and you are further convinced that this might just be the best stock tracking rifle ever made. Lever-actions are a lot different than the Dakota bolt-actions and single-shots produced in Sturgis for decades. So should I send it back or keep it and take it on a bear hunt? FTX is rated at 2050 f.p.s. I shot all of the jacketed rounds after I shot the lead rounds. Check out this great review of one of the best tracking rifles. You're reviewing: Marlin - 1895 CBA 45-70 Gov't Your Rating. But if I run it will be to Utah. Notable Members; Current Visitors; Recent Activity; It’s good to know that Marlin is ‘back’. This also has nothing to do with raw accuracy, but everything to do with getting a comfortable and consistent cheek-weld for shooting groups. I’ll take half a star off for standard wood and a good, but nothing special finish. I wish that I could like the newer Marlin lever rifles, However there were three on the rack at my LGS. At 100 yds. Alaskan bush hunters and their guides needed a shorter rifle that packed a punch, and so many gravitated to the Marlin. The newer Model 1895 is a different design that simply honors the earlier model designation. I'd love to have one but mine is a 26" barrel version. The 250-gr. And was a butt-stock pad necessary? Gun was probably $250 new back then and the conversion cost more than the gun but it’s a cool trick. Only holds 4(!) Went to the range today and put 70 rounds through the CBA Marlin. I still want a Florida gator. In factory offerings the “guide gun” chambering is most likely to be the great old .45-70 Gov’t. A lot of work goes into these guns, and while the outside is one thing, the inside is another. Appreciate the note. With aperture sights there’s a compromise to be made. Now that Marlin is for sale again, let’s all hope the new owners take those lessons to heart. I told them I’d give them a couple more weeks but if it wasn’t shipped they’d have to refund the gun as I’ve purchased something that they’ve held hostage all summer long. The first was a Model 1895 equipped with a fixed power 1.5X scope. I prefer the Marlin to everything else out there. It’s pretty easy to tell the 19th century Marlins from the later versions. I had a box of that 22 I got from Gander Mountain during the previous great ammo shortage and that’s what I took to shoot. Review: Hornady Super Subsonic Hunting Loads, Craig Boddington Opens Virtual Hunters Convention, Power Couple: Wilson Combat Southpaw Protector Series AR In .300 HAM’R, © 2021 National Rifle Association of America. Guessing not much change in recoil from the other patterns based on the weight listed. The modern 1895CB has a tapered barrel, and by the time it ends, the .458″ tunnel doesn’t leave much metal left. 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