Driver big fade / slice. You hit your drive well because you can compress the ball if hit it on the up-swing. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. Tbh at this point you're supposed to struggle and anything anyone tells you in here probably won't help. He's aiming at a target a thousand yards away with a really nice rifle. Here are a couple of swings I’ve taken with my driver. So many things have to go right in a golf swing to hit it straight and minor deviations in the swing can send your ball offline. Also turn your hands over in the swing and try to hit hooks. This may not be the reality, but that is what I feel while I'm swinging and is what I'm thinking while I'm setting up. If you are hitting the odd fade with irons as well then you will have to take a look at your swing path, set up a camcorder or something behind you to film your swing then check it. I swear that thing chooses its own shots. Otherwise go to any used golf club site and find a club chopped between 1.5-2 inches. I hit a nice soft draw with my irons but struggle with my driver. You can try a couple things. I’m not even talking like slicing it or pulling it. The weight of the club head increases as the club gets shorter (typical set) 3. Make SURE you have a square clubface and finally make sure your driving is pointing in the right direction and don't make your backswing too long. But the short answer to this question is 250-270 yards for males and 210-230 yards for females. Time. Unfortunately, without a video, I couldn't give an accurate reason, but there are many people here that have played for decades more than I have. Yesterday evening I had a great 9 holes with irons, pitching, and putting. With all these optimized, you’ll be able to find out how far your driver can hit the ball based on your swing speed. Every. Nearly half of all golfers carry at least one hybrid in their bag. Typically, you set up so the ball is forward in the slot for longer shots and farther back for shorter shots. The golf ball lies on the outer line of the box, and the distance between your feet defines the sides of the box. i understand that means that im hitting the ball with an open club face. It's precise, it's beautiful and it's consistent. My next step is to approach my ball, I stand a comfortable distance behind the ball so the club just "lays" behind the ball with my arms straight. Swing hard and have fun. Hybrid golf clubs, a cross between fairway woods and long irons, have become very popular in recent years. But there are different ways to do that. The shafts are progressively longer as the iron number decreases 2. Tiger Woods said the ball position is the silent killer of your swing. If nothing helps, watch a lot of good swings on youtube and make videos of your swing and have a look yourself. I've always hit my irons really well, I've never hit my driver very well. 9-5 draw. Good driver, bad bad bad irons - posted in Golf Instruction: I think I hit my driver well. I can work irons high and low left to right and right to left. Needless to say we all hit that big thing out of bounds. Make sure to check the company website of your irons if you’re not sure. I know your supposed to swing up on the ball as opposed to swinging down with the irons but I can… the ball begins its flight going straight but ends up tailing off to the right. Here's the thing, most clubs you'll own up to the driver top out between 41-43" long. So I use this 10.6 degrees as a baseline reference (keep in mind that number might be a -4 to -3 on a launch monitor like Trackman). Golf shots that get hit with high back spin rates tend to climb higher into the air. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 1. When you address the ball, the position of your front foot (closest to the target) in relation to the ball dictates the point in your downswing where you make contact. You can have the good golf swing but not hit the ball well if your ball position is off. You're probably hitting a small fade with your irons and are fine with it because it doesn't hurt you that much and you can account for that in your setup. The answer to this question is really simple. Try to hit that high draw, end up hitting the low hook. I’ve been struggling with the driver lately (and always really), while my irons have continued to get better and better (thank God). I know there is a lot of information that doesn't get taught the first weeks of your golfing career and it has taken me five years just to get the foundations right. It’s not so much of an issue with the driver as you are hitting more up on the golf ball but for your irons it’s a death move. The driver has been in the closet for nearly 2 years because I could hit my 4 iron farther so why waste the space in the bag. Do you have a new driver? This skill, also known as full swing, is essential to completing regulation holes under par, but oftentimes beginners struggle to … It changes the swing plane, approach, and mentality of the swing. There are several reasons why hybrid clubs work well for some golfers. Because the driver has the lowest loft it will exaggerate the spin you are putting on the ball more than a lofted iron would. If you slice the ball it's also the result of a glancing blow. The only way to produce a slice is to come from outside-in with the swingpath. With a driver you have to swing up on the ball not down. Good iron play is not difficult to learn, but it does require a slight change in your setup--and mindset. I'm pretty consistent from 5 iron up but the 4 … I position the driver face straight (which is what I suspect you are doing) then I take a few practice shots, make sure the face is pointing in the right angle then smash it, try and not make the back swing to long. I can hit my irons pretty good and far. Its almost like the longer the club the more it wants to go right. Except its not and on average PGA players hit down on it. That will take off some spin and should straighten out your ball flight. so I can hit my driver pretty straight and far, about 260+ depending on wind. Learn more about axis tilt below in 'standing taller at impact'. They do with with impact tape or even foot spray. The iron swing you can swing very steep with and hit great shots, you try to do it with a driver and you will be hitting "power fades" and popping the ball up in some cases because you are trying to squeeze a longer club into a position that it just is not designed for. Nice long fluid swing. You most likely are hitting your irons well because you hit down on them causing good compression. If you drop it before your followthrough you are probably either chickenwinged at the top (see jim furyk) or coming outside-in. Anyways, I feel your pain man. If I hit it poorly it will hook and stay low. I'm going to hit the range and try out some of these tips and see what happens. The shaft flexing should be released through the zone and THEN contacting the ball. Why You Can’t Hit Your Irons Anymore The main reason why a golfer can’t hit their irons consistently is due to incorrect stance, poor contact with the ball, or using an iron that is too long or short for their height. Gone are the days of being scared of trying to swing hard and hit your long irons well. Some things to look out for: Do you sway (moving your body backward-forward too much in your swing), Do you tilt (leaning backwards a lot after you're done). As they apply these things to the clubface they are surprised when they see where they actually hit the ball on the face. EDITED to include driver swing: http://youtu.be/oSU4Q6NMt_Y. Water on the right that shouldn't even come into play? I have an 8 handicap, I hit my irons exceptionally well ( long and short irons) I can usually manager my driver to the point where I hit 10 or more fairways per round with it. At some point I picked up a 5 wood which I love. I find for me I don't swing near as steep for my 4 and 5 iron as I do for my 7 iron. Now give him a fuckin RPG. TLDR: Try and sweep it rather then hitting under, so adjust your swing for drivers so the face directly impacts the ball rather thrn hitting under it. I find standing an inch or so further away from the ball than irons can help at times as it makes you stretch out that bit more and swing a bit more around yourself and not as steep like an iron. The oldest trick in the book is to hold a towel under your back armpit (right one for us righties) during your swing. Even though they hit solid drives off the tee and perhaps can even hit an iron off a tee, they simply cannot hit an iron shot off the ground, even when they have a good lie in the fairway. When I go to hit my irons I will hit it fat as anything. i can hit my irons well but i cant hit my driver cause i end up slicing every driver shot. I started a few weeks ago and am steadily improving. Why Can I Hit Hybrids, But Not Irons?. When hitting, try to aim for a point with the club head to your outward direction (right for us righties). I always wondered why at 5’8″ my irons had to be adjusted to 2* upright and why I hit my hybrids and fairway woods more off the toe. You can change your choices at any time by visiting Your Privacy Controls. But my driver has always given me fits, and lately has just come undone. You'll hit it a little higher too, but that's a good thing. Not the driver. It's also on a different plane. I love this game. All pretty straight, with good contacts on the center of the club face. Practice makes perfect. Most companies are selling 46" long drivers. The easy fix: Choke about 1.5 inches down on your driver. Irons make so much sense to me, but I go into driver swing and I feel unnatural. Could be any number of things, sweeping the club, not turning your hands through, flex of the shaft in comparison to irons, swing plane, acting like your playing baseball. For years I have watched golfers try to purposely hit the sweet spot on their driver and irons. Time to pull out the good ol' block right. Other tip is to try to watch how the club head works through the ball, does it come from inside-out? After I came home from that 1973 Open, I'd play imaginary three-balls. This first swing was not so good. Hitting up is difficult and would be bad for the vast majority of golfers. The loft of the club decreases as the club gets longer (lower) numbered irons 4. I can’t even get the ball in the air . I even have better luck hitting woods off the fairway. Also accept that there is a certain path we all have to go. In the … Also turn your hands over in the swing and try to hit hooks. Thanks for all of these awesome responses. You probably hit down on the ball at impact. try a few practice swings and see if you can follow the club head. Components of Hybrid Golf Clubs. The 6 iron for me isn't much different from my 7 iron. This makes me think I'm missing some critical piece of swinging a driver. This is really good with irons and fairway woods, but terrible for consistent driver improvement. For too many golfers, irons are a mystery. MY FAVORITE DRILL TO FEEL SOLID CONTACT If you hit a lot of fat iron shots, chances are you're not shifting to your front foot in the downswing. You may hit your irons square and or pure but you're not compressing the ball like you do with your driver. What's the deal? I just wanted to say, thanks for posting this! You need a flatter swing plane more around your body with the driver and to some degree the 3 wood. However, I can't drive the ball very well and end up slicing or pushing right or hitting a pop up. The slot is an imaginary box that you look into as you address and hit the golf ball. Again, hard to tel because of no video, but try that. Conclusion. One of the biggest mistakes a golfer can make is assuming that their best iron swing should also be the best golf swing for their driver. Information about your device and internet connection, including your IP address, Browsing and search activity while using Verizon Media websites and apps. Keep the tempo slow without decelerating and keep those hand away from your body. 3w bigger fade. Since every golfer is unique you need to go to a pro to see if you can get some hints, or the 'ol cheapo version, get a friend who is quite the golfer to the range to have a look at you. What's the length? You may find the driver length is the factor most responsible for uncomfortable, missed swings. The Proper Way to Hit Irons in Golf. So pay attention to your ball position. I can’t hit my driver at all. Sweep the club back, and hit up on your driver. Yeah, that things gonna have some power, but the chances of him actually hitting his target are pretty slim, and not at all consistent. The driver on the other hand multiplies this error and you end up in the forest. Irons you are impacting with downward force and going for the little ball big ball effect. Yahoo is part of Verizon Media. Find out more about how we use your information in our Privacy Policy and Cookie Policy. I know that if I do an iron swing with my driver, I usually end up slicing the ball. What's the one thing that needs to click to fix a drive? It’s not. Because whether you realize it or not, you have a different goal for your irons versus your driver. Put the ball in line with your left heel or little inside of left heel for a driver. You are making contact after the bottom of the swing. Try to tuck your (right for righties) elbow to your body and slow down your swing enough to feel it. What I really love to do is to walk behind my tee and watch and imagine my perfect shot. So the first piece of advice to people that can hit their irons well but not their driver is to get the exact same shaft as is in their irons put in their driver. One reason you might not be hitting the ball very far is that you have too high of a spin rate with your driver and irons. Here is my swing with a driver :-/ http://youtu.be/oSU4Q6NMt_Y, Longest club=longest swing. Consequently, the ball flight wasn’t so great either. With a driver you have to swing up on the ball not down. I have a mizuno mp-600 I really like that has a shorter stock shaft (its either 44.5 or 45"). I played in a tournament yesterday where … I feel with my irons that I'm hitting the ball on the way down, and with my driver I'm trying to hit it on the way up. But recently , I was playing a round and hitting every fairway. The hybrid is one of the most popular innovations in golf equipment in recent years. Clear-able trees on the left side of a dogleg left? After mastering the hook you can change the amount of hand turning over in your swing to hit it straight. You most likely are hitting your irons well because you hit down on them causing good compression. With a hybrid, you can have confidence back in your game. Ive lost quite a bit of distance on my woods, ( 260 driver, 230 3 wood) but I seem to be hitting my other clubs much farther, especially when I play my tournament balls. I need some serious help. An easy way to spot this is watching how high your shots go in the air. I feel the club face is open when i hit it and if I I try to close it, it will hook and stay low. To enable Verizon Media and our partners to process your personal data select 'I agree', or select 'Manage settings' for more information and to manage your choices. This explains a lot of my problems. Okay so I’ll appreciate any advice. I have the exact same problem so you are not alone. 3i slight fade. So I have a picture now, of a couple targets for my … Without a video it would be hard to tell but you probably are making an iron swing with your driver. Too often the impact marks are on the heel and toe with a few in the middle. I always find that with the driver you sort of want to "sweep" the ball of the tee rathet then aim to hit under it. And 9 times out of 10 just doing this solves there driving … You’ll be able to hit more long par 4’s and maybe even some par 5’s to increase your chances for birides. Why? Those are average distances of above average players. Bottom line, I hit my 5 wood much better, and seriously nearly as far as my driver. Imagine a marine sniper. What happens is your hands move closer to the ground and get forced to release early resulting in loss of lag and the ability to hit the irons flush. In golf, drivers and irons are used for what's called the "long game," which consists of hitting the ball as far as the golfer can to drive it closer to the hole. In both cases, you want to hit the ball in the sweet spot and get some distance. The root cause: Your iron swing and your driver swing are different animals. 4i goes pretty straight. The problem is that your irons doesn't really reflect your swing errors as much as a driver does. My tempo was off a bit, and I was way too steep with the driver. We and our partners will store and/or access information on your device through the use of cookies and similar technologies, to display personalised ads and content, for ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Many have given up even trying to hit long irons, instead switching to hybrids for mid-range shots to the green. Thank you. But the driver.. Hybrid golf clubs are often called utility clubs, and PGA Tour pros and amateurs of all skill levels have embraced them for the game-improvement features they offer. Here's an interesting fact: While PGA Tour pros hit their drives anywhere from 280 yards to 320 yards on average, and LPGA Tour pros hit their drives from 230 to 270 yards on average, most recreational golfers, according to Golf Digest, average somewhere around 195-205 yards with their drivers. Why might one hit their irons and wedges far but not their woods. Very consistent I think. 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